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Friday, June 30, 2006

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Riverbottom Nightmare Band

Did she say if she worked at Hooters like you were suspecting last week?

dvdguy

No. From the way she was describing her clothing preferences there's no way she would have ever even applied to work at Hooters.

And damnit, stop changing usernames.

Riverbottom Nightmare Band

Okay.

melanie

at the risk of making the wrong assumption, and don't get me wrong, b/c i'm sure she's a very nice gal, but is it possible she's fishing for compliments about her body? because despite her saying otherwise, i find it kind of strange that she would just come up with "i sure wish guys would stop liking me for my body" out of the blue.. and know you the way i THINK i do, i'm pretty sure you wouldn't be the one to open up with "hey, i sure do like your body" or, "gee, it's too bad your uniform covers up your shapely bod there" or even "i sure am glad for you that you don't have to dress like a hose-bag and show off your lady lumps"...

that said, chicks are notorious for saying stuff like that to draw attention to just that...
what's your take?

nueva

We all love winners!

dvdguy

Melanie, I know those types and she doesn't come off like that. She genuinely seemed offended last week by this one table who kept making lewd comments about her body. Late in the evening yesterday in reference to something I can't quite recall she was saying something to the effect of "I know I have a good figure". She just strikes me as someone who doesn't want to use that to get ahead.

melanie

whatever.

JBH

Hey, today is still June! There's trivia tonite at the Beach. One more notch on the June champeenship belt?

I am on shaky ground wading into a discussion of body image. If I had to guess, 'Jen' is ambivalent (imagine that, in our society!). On the one hand, I gree she seemed offended by comment she said were made by other tables. On the other hand, she has been a cheerleader and a gymnast, so is used to some attention based on physical presence. In response to my asking why her pre-printed server name on our bill said 'Tinker Bell', she did seem to enjoy talking about the nickname and about her halloween costume.

At the end of it all, I kind of agree with DVDguy's revised position. She conveys enthusiasm, genuineness and a degree of innocence. If she doesn't like talking with us, she is going to a HUGE amount of work to fake it. Plus she brought me Dewar's and charged for a well brand. 'Nuff said!

melanie

i take no issue with her geniunely liking some of her customer -- you fine folks included.. in my years and years and years of experience in food service, there were lots of customers i genuinely looked forward to seeing-- and many i dreaded... with that out of the way, on to the body image issue...

yes, i'm sure she WAS and HAS been truly offended by comments made by customers, or some guys in general.. few among us females have made it to our 30's without having been offended by crass comments..HOWEVER... when stated nicely, it can be very flattering, reassuring, ego-boosting, whatever you want to label it... it's not a bad thing to know people think you look good. i'm willing to bet that when she's not in uniform, (read: wearing what she's told, not what she chooses), and goes out, i'm sure she chooses outfits that she thinks accentuates her better qualities. everybody does.

venture

Yes, but where was she during the holocaust?Serving food at Nazi trivia, that's where!

melanie

oh, i forgot to get back to my original point:
if a chick talks about her body--whether she claims to like it or not, have people comment on it or not--- there's an excellent chance she wants you to notice it, reassure her about it, and/or compliment her on it.

JBH

ok, if you say so, I will give it a try.

dvdguy

Whoa, Dr. Venture makes a cameo...

Melanie: Yes. People notice her body. She's one of those tiny blondes that everyone notices. But I'm not the type to verbally drool all over someone in public, so she shan't be gettin' any of that satisfaction from me.

melanie

JBH: what will you give a try?

JBH

I don't know DVDguy, you said some awfully complimentary things to me last night. At least until Steve and Krishelle showed up.

JBH

Melanie, I will try that reassuring stuff you mention in your 1:54 post.

melanie

dvd: just b/c you don't verbally drool over her doesn't mean she's not programmed to subconsciously try to get that response from people..or that may be EXACTLY why she wants you to.. or maybe she thinks you're the bees knees and wants you to realize how cute she is b/c you're not showing any indication that you DO notice, although you clearly do...(does that make sense?)
also, a lot of very attractive people get all of their self-worth from looks, and so that's the only way they know how to feel appreciated by people. ironically, the 'attractive' folks often have the least self-confidence.

dvdguy

I should also point out that even though I've identified this woman as one of those tiny, cute blondes... she's not my type in the slightest.

Riverbottom Nightmare Band

Just to add fuel to melanie's fire....last week she did almost immediately start off with us by telling us that the other table told her how great her butt was and she didn't like that!
But then she was still talking and being friendly and flirty with them the rest of the night almost as much as with us...spending alot of time with these people who she had told us had offended her.

dvdguy

And to put out that fire DeniroBuckRiverbottom, she told us about several bad customers she had last night, and yet still spent time with each and every one of them. It's called doing your job. You're not allowed to just ignore bad customers in that kind of setting. She still smiles and flirts no matter how rude they're being.

melanie

dvd: actually, you can drop customers. i have dropped customers before for being rude.. if it wasn't a heinous offense, but you're uncomfortable, you ask one of the other servers to take the table for you..or your manager..or, if you don't want to sacrifice the tip, you keep serving them ,but there's certainly no need to be flirty or even friendly.. you can still provide pleasant service. i can recall 2 incidents where not only did i drop a table, but i did so loudly declaring it to the room as to why.. dvd, you know me, and i'm sure you're not all that surprised by this..

dvdguy

Mel: Knowing you I wouldn't be surprised to hear that you hit them in the faces with banana creme pies.

venture

MEL "a lot of very attractive people get all of their self-worth from looks, and so that's the only way they know how to feel appreciated by people. ironically, the 'attractive' folks often have the least self-confidence"

Never a truer statement hath been said.

melanie

dang! if only we'd served banana cream pies! nah, never did that, just caused a scene.. one of the times, this guy who was seated at a near-by table (not in my section), came by on his way out and gave me a tip saying that was the best thing he'd ever seen in a restaurant. now THAT'S good stuff.

melanie

venture:
thanks! luckily for me, i went through a LOONNNNG painful awkward period with braces, bad hair and "insurance-frame" glasses! and THAT is how personality and fortitude is built! :D

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